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stef_tm ([personal profile] stef_tm) wrote2009-03-31 12:17 am

Bailout and an observation about climate change

When the LA Times has an article like this...

Obama takes step over the line that separates government from private industry.

You think? So underwhelmed with this administration and congress.

I officially became a patron of the Cato Institute last week. Time to put my (tax deductible) money where my mouth is.

I was also thinking about climate change the other day; I believe climate change is real and that we have an impact on the climate and its cycle - we like anything else on the planet; it's a closed system. I don't know to what extent the climate will change but any disruption more than a few degrees higher or lower will have a tremendous impact on agriculture and human settlement (as most of the world's population lives on its coasts.)

Here's the thought that popped into my mind: If I were a climate scientist and I thought we were at the tipping point, I'd be doing everything I could - 24/7 - to prevent that from happening. Giant acts of civil disobedience that would force my opinion onto every news program in the US. I'd make the tribe over at Earth First look like Sunday school kids.

Where are the outraged scientists? During the early days of the AIDS epidemic, well established scientists put their careers on the line to call Reagan out on funding. World renowned researchers worked with groups like ACT-UP.

I don't see that here - except for one person who learned about climate disruption and became passionate about it - Al Gore. Now he's quiet, too.

What gives?

(ETA: Here's a post from Climate Progress on the narrow window of climate that produced civilization. Here is a post that introduces the grim scenario: Hell and High Water.)

[identity profile] nokomisjeff.livejournal.com 2009-03-31 01:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Steph, Cato Institute....that's another patronage thing we have in common. My new friend used to do work for them back in the 80's.

Have you ever read any Ayn Rand? If not, you ought to.

I wrote a piece, a farce actually, over at my blog defending my big carbon footprint and my right to increase it. Although it was tongue and cheek, I pissed off a whole bunch of people. This morning I had to delete 22 comments. That being said, I need to do an April Fool's column today as I will be in transit back to NY tomorrow.

I just can't believe my good fortune.

Jeff

[identity profile] peters67.livejournal.com 2009-03-31 04:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Our engineering college once got a lawyer to give a talk to our class. He said engineers and scientists make the worst expert witnesses because they always unwittingly defeat themselves by admitting to reasonable doubt. It's within a scientist's nature to have doubt, so this may be why science doesn't make political policy until it is(?) too late.

I remember first reading about global warming in the late 80's-early 90's. The articles would almost sound apologetic about how much assumptions went into their climate models, how undeveloped the models are, and so on. I didn't think much about global warming either, because it didn't sound urgent or sure of itself.

[identity profile] crm17.livejournal.com 2009-04-05 03:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree. I think there is no question that admitting to reasonable doubt is part of the problem in convincing the short attention span public. I have often said this about Democrats. The Republicans in general are better at saying a simple but not completely accurate bumper sticker talking point. This has more impact but it feels so wrong to any thoughtful person. Naturally this is not true of all Republicans. Since I am all about reasonable doubt and exceptions, I had to fight not to add a half dozen more caveats to the above. Magnify this problem by an order of magnitude for someone whose job it is to be analytical, examine all sides of an issue, and express conclusions in balanced accurate terms.

[identity profile] writerspleasure.livejournal.com 2009-03-31 05:23 pm (UTC)(link)
bravo on cato. :)

as you may know, c. has brought up precisely that issue re. global warming. it's an utterly bizarre cognitive dissonance - ZOMG HORRIFYING DISASTER so how's the weather?

rather like the president's CATALCLYSM FROM WHICH WE MAY NOT RECOVER oh and here's my basketball picks.

[identity profile] writerspleasure.livejournal.com 2009-03-31 05:24 pm (UTC)(link)
i think btw that some of this is almost on purpose - people like william ayers like to get people in a dissociative state. hence the vacuous vaporousness with a nice smooth feel on top that's coming out of washington this go-round.

[identity profile] 6-bleen-7.livejournal.com 2009-04-01 03:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, dear: The Cato Institute is a hotbed of climate change denial. Spurred on by their backers in the tobacco industry, they have also tried to claim that secondhand smoke isn't dangerous after all. I'm hardly a socialist, but I can't abide the manufacturing of a false controversy about well-established scientific knowledge in the name of corporate greed.

[identity profile] stef-tm.livejournal.com 2009-04-05 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
Yep, I'm aware of that.

Sadly my politics are sufficiently disparate that I can cancel myself out of every affiliation on several issues.

Right now, I think they have the right economic and social issue approach; I could be wrong (and often am.)